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clinton is probably not talking her out of it. >> bill clinton would love hillary clinton to be president. in fact, the fact that he was so magnanimous with president obama this past campaign was a miracle to a lot of us who covered hillary clinton in '08 because i think the president, bill clinton took his wife's loss harder than she did in that campaign against then senator obama. look, what i think is going to happen is hillary has all the cards to her. she is going to take a year off. she can sleep. she can write a book. she can do speaking appearances. she can be a mom to chelsea. >> maybe a grandmom. >> maybe a grandma. i don't know anything about that. and she can still decide to run. this is going to kill all these other democrats who are hoping to run because the field is frozen until she makes a decision. >> i want to talk to you about that, because you raise an interesting point there are a lot of folks who are suggesting one of the reasons we spend so much time talking about hillary ad nauseam is because there really aren't a whole lot of other democrats out there who could ru
clinton is probably not talking her out of it. >> bill clinton would love hillary clinton to be president. in fact, the fact that he was so magnanimous with president obama this past campaign was a miracle to a lot of us who covered hillary clinton in '08 because i think the president, bill clinton took his wife's loss harder than she did in that campaign against then senator obama. look, what i think is going to happen is hillary has all the cards to her. she is going to take a year off....
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much higher than the 39% under bill clinton. did the economy suffer? no! we did very well in the 1950's and 1960's. we actually had an economy that worked for everybody. the rich did not take home 24% of total income. they took home about 9% of total income, even before taxes. what we need to do as a country is understand that we had a period of widespread posterity. we need to go back to that kind of an economy. >> cenk: all right, thank you for joining us. really appreciate it. >> thanks, chenk. >> cenk: when we come back, president obama and mitt romney had a lunch. there's a secret recording of that lunch, kind of. >> president obama makes good on an election night promise meeting with mitt romney. that this is their first face-to-face meeting sings their bruising campaign. >> the elbow of the day is on a shiny bald republican head. i think you'll like it. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> cenk: president obama met with mitt romney today for lunch. our political correspondent michael shure is here to tell us all about it. >> on the one hand, a warming comforting th
much higher than the 39% under bill clinton. did the economy suffer? no! we did very well in the 1950's and 1960's. we actually had an economy that worked for everybody. the rich did not take home 24% of total income. they took home about 9% of total income, even before taxes. what we need to do as a country is understand that we had a period of widespread posterity. we need to go back to that kind of an economy. >> cenk: all right, thank you for joining us. really appreciate it. >>...
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. >> he has got to be bill clinton for a moment. explain it to people like my husband would clayne to me, stop spending money. that would help. but then he realizes that i have to make money. stop spending money is not enough. >> the problem is when you don't stop spending money. here who is not laughing this is john boehner speaker of the house. >> this is a stalemate. let's not kid ourselves. i'm not trying to make this more difficult. you've watched me over the last three weeks, i've been very guarded in what i have had to say. but when i come out the day after the election and make it clear that republicans will put revenue on the table i took a great risk. >> cenk: kind of makes you yearn for the pen jokes. >> yes. >> cenk: look, he didn't take a great risk. that's what the whole election was about raising revenue. raising revenue is code word for not raising the income tax rates. we don't want to raise rates we'll get rid of loopholes that we'll put back in next year. i love the point that dorothy made. i never thought about i
. >> he has got to be bill clinton for a moment. explain it to people like my husband would clayne to me, stop spending money. that would help. but then he realizes that i have to make money. stop spending money is not enough. >> the problem is when you don't stop spending money. here who is not laughing this is john boehner speaker of the house. >> this is a stalemate. let's not kid ourselves. i'm not trying to make this more difficult. you've watched me over the last three...
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two is that look, what's wrong with us going back to quite frankly the rate under bill clinton? you remember the clinton years? the largest economic expansion in our history? everyone's boat rising, everyone paying their fair share, deficit reduction, the middle class growing. the problem with what republicans want to do right now, wolf, is they want to lock in this tax rate that you have to sort of address the tax rate. we cannot have a tax rate locked in where they starve the government so that the middle class has to sort of pay more of the share for the burden of government, and you know what, we end up cutting away those programs, those things that help grow opportunity for the middle class. the number one problem with our country right now is sort of the shrinking and burden on the middle class. if we want to sort of expand the middle class and grow the middle class, the last thing we can do is sort of put more of that burden on them as opposed to asking the wealthy people to pay their fair share, like what they paid in the clinton administration. >> okay, cornel, let me s
two is that look, what's wrong with us going back to quite frankly the rate under bill clinton? you remember the clinton years? the largest economic expansion in our history? everyone's boat rising, everyone paying their fair share, deficit reduction, the middle class growing. the problem with what republicans want to do right now, wolf, is they want to lock in this tax rate that you have to sort of address the tax rate. we cannot have a tax rate locked in where they starve the government so...
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when nixon's wife died he complained that bill clinton, quote, came to me for advice to save his bottom and couldn't even send a cabinet member to pat's funeral. these are relationships forged around rivalries. i think it's impossible to expect, especially these two, to move forward and have a lunch. it's weird. >> yeah. they seem to really actually have total contempt and disdain for one another. which is different than, you know, i think the president did have a certain level of respect for mccain. i will say your intro, jonathan, about costco, i was thinking i love the joe biden image at costco. if the two guys, mitt romney and the president, were like wandering through costco together, getting samples, that would be a beautiful image. >> that's not weird, but sitting down at lunch is weird? >> one thing i feel like they might actually have in common, i feel like they both might like costco. we'll have to speculate on that. the thing is for me, not only is there no substance here, but even the symbolism of it, what does it really matter? nobody -- mitt romney doesn't have a constitue
when nixon's wife died he complained that bill clinton, quote, came to me for advice to save his bottom and couldn't even send a cabinet member to pat's funeral. these are relationships forged around rivalries. i think it's impossible to expect, especially these two, to move forward and have a lunch. it's weird. >> yeah. they seem to really actually have total contempt and disdain for one another. which is different than, you know, i think the president did have a certain level of respect...
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that happened in the '90s with billi bill clinton. listen to what he says about the fiscal cliff? >> i think no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two. the president has staked out a position of nonseriousness, i think it's difficult for the house republicans right now to find any practical way to get his attention. >> he's saying go over the cliff rather than accept what the president wants right now. >> i don't need to remind you this is the house speaker who shut down the government and that didn't work so well for the republicans. going over the cliff is something i don't think they want to do earlier. as i keep saying, wolf. the irony to me here is that the larger issues are things they really understand how to resolve, if you look at all their proposals. they just can't get there, because they can't agree on this revenue issue. where does the revenue come from. do you raise the rates on the wealthy? if you do, how much? and that's actually in the whole realm of things a sticking point that
that happened in the '90s with billi bill clinton. listen to what he says about the fiscal cliff? >> i think no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two. the president has staked out a position of nonseriousness, i think it's difficult for the house republicans right now to find any practical way to get his attention. >> he's saying go over the cliff rather than accept what the president wants right...
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you have the best friend of bill clinton terry mcauliffe as the democratic nominee. some people are painting this as a tea party against the clintons in mcauliffe. things can still happen. it looks like a fascinating race. >> chris, as you know, political reporters, we only have two gubernatorial races to cover. we give a lot of attention to virginia and new jersey. what's fascinating about virginia, since i've been covering politics on the national stage, the off-year election has proved to be a template if that party that's out of power wins. 2005, tim kaine ends up running a race, appealing to independents, sfresing his religious faith. actually kind of having a very soft appeal to a lot of folks. he's adopted that 2006 and 2008. a lot of the ideas barack obama ran on in 2008 was tim cane. >> he endorsed him for president, just as a sidebar. >> mcdonnell was focused like a laser on the economy. what did we see republicans do? focus on the economy. try to turn social issues away. he was very successful in 2005. house republicans and senate republicans successful. m
you have the best friend of bill clinton terry mcauliffe as the democratic nominee. some people are painting this as a tea party against the clintons in mcauliffe. things can still happen. it looks like a fascinating race. >> chris, as you know, political reporters, we only have two gubernatorial races to cover. we give a lot of attention to virginia and new jersey. what's fascinating about virginia, since i've been covering politics on the national stage, the off-year election has proved...
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i keep going back to the 1990s, who would ever look at bill clinton and think -- would look at bill clinton and newt gingrich as the models of, you know, of compromise in the age of impeachment. but those guys did not like each other at the beginning of the process. in fact, they hated each other in '94. but they spent four years behind closed doors, you know, knocking each other's heads. they figured out how to balance the budget together. and they will both say it. the president will say to gingrich, gingrich will say to the president, four years in a row for the first time since the '20s, and the president is flying off today to a campaign rally. i'm rooting for the president. i am. i'm rooting for boehner. i really am. i want them to all succeed. i want us to avert this crisis. it depresses me, though, the way the president's team is having him perform on the national stage. i think this is a bad mistake. >> i think it's too early to tell. "national review's" jim garrity, thank you. eugene robinson, thank you as well. your post is online at washingtonpost.com. >> can we go to richard? w
i keep going back to the 1990s, who would ever look at bill clinton and think -- would look at bill clinton and newt gingrich as the models of, you know, of compromise in the age of impeachment. but those guys did not like each other at the beginning of the process. in fact, they hated each other in '94. but they spent four years behind closed doors, you know, knocking each other's heads. they figured out how to balance the budget together. and they will both say it. the president will say to...
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in that sense i think he is like other great second-term presidents like ronald reagan, bill clinton. when he gets out there and makes his case in the country, that reverberates back in the capital. i think it's the best way for him to move these members of congress. >> erick, the main people he has to talk to here quite frankly are congressional republicans. are they somehow going to be swayed after this last election that the president's got the right idea all of a sudden? it doesn't sound right. >> no, i don't think so. and to paul's point interestingly enough, i was struck during the debt ceiling debate that every time the president spoke inside washington or the white house, his poll numbers went down. when he got out of washington and went out into the crowd, his poll numbers would go up saying basically the same thing. so i do think it works for him with the crowd and with the public. but i'm not sure it's going to work with congressional republicans. >> erick, i have to ask you while we have you up there and you knew this was going to come up. there's been some talk about you
in that sense i think he is like other great second-term presidents like ronald reagan, bill clinton. when he gets out there and makes his case in the country, that reverberates back in the capital. i think it's the best way for him to move these members of congress. >> erick, the main people he has to talk to here quite frankly are congressional republicans. are they somehow going to be swayed after this last election that the president's got the right idea all of a sudden? it doesn't...
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bill clinton had beat the sitting president, george herber walker bush, and they met similar to the way romney and obama are now, and now clinton and 41 are dear, close friends and have done many constructive things together around the world. i think, by and large, these meetings, the luncheon today, will be about optics. it's the photo ops. it's a chance to say america is united. there may be an opportunity here for mitt romney to come out and talk about the fiscal cliff or saying we must avoid falling off it towards something that could be helpful to the white house in the end. i remember back in 2008 it was john mccain that met with president obama. they met in his office in chicago. not at the white house. it seemed like that was the beginning, potentially of two leaders really working together. we have since seen that deteriorate. >> we can't judge personal kem tri. i think barack obama has more at stake in this lunch in the end than mitt romney. if obama can get romney to say something positive about moving a health care agenda forward after all obama care was built on the backs o
bill clinton had beat the sitting president, george herber walker bush, and they met similar to the way romney and obama are now, and now clinton and 41 are dear, close friends and have done many constructive things together around the world. i think, by and large, these meetings, the luncheon today, will be about optics. it's the photo ops. it's a chance to say america is united. there may be an opportunity here for mitt romney to come out and talk about the fiscal cliff or saying we must...
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clinton's who reached out all the time. so i think that's a factor, but a minor one. i think kerry reads use of filling the amendment tree, partly this is chicken and egg, but is been done too much and that could result in at least some protests and willingness of some senators on his side you might not otherwise join some of these filibusters to do so. but it had much more to do with a concerted party strategy, which i think it's really the first time we've seen it. >> i think there's two separate issues. one obstruction on nomination and to come the obstructions on the legislative. on the nomination site, it is true you see these judge votes and they happen to go 992.one. it's important to remember what we are talking about. the alternative to that is to move it by unanimous consent. this is not like the house for thursday though. the member objects unanimous consent because they do not want to vote or don't want to be forced to vote for a judge with whom they may disagree but support, they say i will have the roll call.
clinton's who reached out all the time. so i think that's a factor, but a minor one. i think kerry reads use of filling the amendment tree, partly this is chicken and egg, but is been done too much and that could result in at least some protests and willingness of some senators on his side you might not otherwise join some of these filibusters to do so. but it had much more to do with a concerted party strategy, which i think it's really the first time we've seen it. >> i think there's...
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. >> reminds me of that stalemate back in the '90s during the clinton administration when bill clinton was president, newt gingrich was speaker, the threat to shut down the government. bill clinton didn't blink. the republicans didn't blink. they shut down the government. the republicans were blamed by and large for that shutting down the government even if it was only for a few days. a lot of the democrats who served worked for bill clinton at that time are working for this president right now. they remember that government shutdown stand-off. let's see if that affects their thinking going forward right now. thanks very much, jessica, for that. >>> there's bad flooding in california right now. what does it mean for the state's most famous wine producing regions? we'll have the latest on that. a lot more news coming up. ienced extra strength bayer advanced aspirin. in fact, in a recent survey, 95% of people who tried it agreed that it relieved their headache fast. visit fastreliefchallenge.com today for a special trial offer. aww, not the mall. well, i'll do the shopping... if you do t
. >> reminds me of that stalemate back in the '90s during the clinton administration when bill clinton was president, newt gingrich was speaker, the threat to shut down the government. bill clinton didn't blink. the republicans didn't blink. they shut down the government. the republicans were blamed by and large for that shutting down the government even if it was only for a few days. a lot of the democrats who served worked for bill clinton at that time are working for this president...
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if it were president bill clinton, you might think that something. ideas might be exchanged with one another. >> steve: some folks suggest that maybe the president would offer him secretary of business. >> gretchen: really? wait a minute. what percentage of people watching right now think that president obama would offer mitt romney secretary of business. >> brian: that is. >> gretchen: that would be fantastic but i doubt it. >> brian: in reading his bio. one of the business mistake was working in the cabinet for president nixon. i am personally kind of disappointed that bee are talking about tax rates for the rich. >> steve: campaign. >> brian: what about the middle class people standing in the back drop as they need a break and the president urging for something to be done yesterday and there is no scheduled meetings with john boehner. >> gretchen: it is annoying to see just a campaign. how many people are tired of a campaign speech. why not come to the table and figure it out. i don't understand it. >> steve: at this point, both sides know what th
if it were president bill clinton, you might think that something. ideas might be exchanged with one another. >> steve: some folks suggest that maybe the president would offer him secretary of business. >> gretchen: really? wait a minute. what percentage of people watching right now think that president obama would offer mitt romney secretary of business. >> brian: that is. >> gretchen: that would be fantastic but i doubt it. >> brian: in reading his bio. one of...
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bush, bill clinton, all objecting to settlement on that spot and getting his assurances from israel that it wouldn't be built on, so why now? tough talking? election coming up? what happened in the u.n.? what's the feeling there? >> well, certainly the israelis have made no secret of the fact that this is a direct punitive measure for what happened at the u.n. last thursday where, of course, the palestinians managed get an upgraded status there in the u.n. general assembly going to nonmember observer state. of course, the word state there is the operative one for the palestinians. the palestinians now say they do, in fact, have a state which is a taertory that is defined as the west bank, gaza, and east jerusalem. so, therefore, the palestinians are saying that this obviously would make the implementation of this state all but impossible because they say it would be impossible for them to even reach their capital that they want to have, which is, of course, east jerusalem. this is certainly a measure that's cause aing lot of international controversy. you were saying that great britain a
bush, bill clinton, all objecting to settlement on that spot and getting his assurances from israel that it wouldn't be built on, so why now? tough talking? election coming up? what happened in the u.n.? what's the feeling there? >> well, certainly the israelis have made no secret of the fact that this is a direct punitive measure for what happened at the u.n. last thursday where, of course, the palestinians managed get an upgraded status there in the u.n. general assembly going to...
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i could go back to other methods of obstruction with bill clinton, who reached out all the time. that is a minor factor. of killing thee omendment tree been done to much. that resulted in some protest. it had much more to do with a concerted party strategy, which is the first time we have seen it. >> there are two separate issues -- of shrubs and on nomination and obstruction on the legislative side. you'll see these judge bowed to 99-1. remember what we are talking about. the alternative is to move it by unanimous consent. this is not like the house where there is a vote and a member of they say -- i will have a roll call vote. the majority leader can schedule a roll-call vote or not. many times he does not. one individual is filibustering the judge. and we get a vote on that, 99- one, 98-2. no one was suggests that those individuals should be required to vote yes for that judge, is what unanimous consent is. that is not what the house does. heavy had majorities in force votes. what it comes to cloture -- this idea of holding the floor. a post cloture has to do that. oftentimes
i could go back to other methods of obstruction with bill clinton, who reached out all the time. that is a minor factor. of killing thee omendment tree been done to much. that resulted in some protest. it had much more to do with a concerted party strategy, which is the first time we have seen it. >> there are two separate issues -- of shrubs and on nomination and obstruction on the legislative side. you'll see these judge bowed to 99-1. remember what we are talking about. the alternative...
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clint clinton, which is why the republicans wanted to put this forward, he proposed this back in november of last year, testified before a committee here. and he said that this is generally the plan that should go in place. so what these republicans aides who briefed us on this are saying is they decided not to go ahead and respond to the white house offer, which they brought up last week and, remember, republicans said was not serious. instead of responding to that with what republicans have long pushed, for example, the paul ryan budget, they decided to go with this, which is in the words of one staffer, a plan that everybody detests. so they want to start with a framework that nobody likes because that way they each side will maybe be able to give a little bit more. this is definitely a big move, because the republicans are -- democrats said the ball was in their court. they obviously agreed. they're sending a proposal back to the president right now. >> message received. let me give you a moment to catch your breath and thank you as we're hearing stand by. we're getting this counterpr
clint clinton, which is why the republicans wanted to put this forward, he proposed this back in november of last year, testified before a committee here. and he said that this is generally the plan that should go in place. so what these republicans aides who briefed us on this are saying is they decided not to go ahead and respond to the white house offer, which they brought up last week and, remember, republicans said was not serious. instead of responding to that with what republicans have...
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and the democrats have struggled with this in the past and ultimately bill clinton was able to rebrand and change the party's image and the republican party remains to be seen who our bill clinton will be. but at the current trajectory we're going to have a difficult time winning presidential elections for the future absent an ability to communicate in a more effective way with these groups. thank you very much. [applause] >> thank you both very much and i want to thank both of you to come tonight. all of us in delaware are appreciative of your presence here. >> i know we've got to talk about the future but there are a few things we've got to get out in the public about the election. i want to ask each of you about whether there were oh s---moments in the course of the campaign. you were watching the first debate. how many minutes into that debate did it take you to threals this was an oh s moment? >> i figured you would go there ralph. i was talking to some of the students and for us in the barack obama experience we always have our moments of near death. so in a way this election was
and the democrats have struggled with this in the past and ultimately bill clinton was able to rebrand and change the party's image and the republican party remains to be seen who our bill clinton will be. but at the current trajectory we're going to have a difficult time winning presidential elections for the future absent an ability to communicate in a more effective way with these groups. thank you very much. [applause] >> thank you both very much and i want to thank both of you to...